I'll admit I wasn't thinking about duels, and that the suggestion i made has never seen JP duty.
He mentioned that he was playing on JP tho...
What exactly does a wet HSM do that a dry one does not?
I should have been more specific: I meant HSM by itself, no Sawa fire with it.
no quad frame blocks vtfs or LM. A lot of them hit the semi-effective threshold for power BRs, which is kinda a big deal due to the nature of BRs, and those that use them. The real threat on that setup is the hangers/SU, which was my point but worder poorly. The underlying point was to go mid weight (hence ortigara) which allows for the heavy weapons and very respectable defense.
I've lost count of the number of quads I've killed with battle rifles + missiles and they have 2.3k CE or a little higher. Mid quads also have less AP and if memory serves are slower. On the flip side they have much better turning, but that doesn't mean that it beats a HBP in a damage race. As far as respectable defenses: light quads hit the same important defense numbers and have MORE AP.
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Since you seem to be suggesting a mid quad you have less AP than a light one and they simply have to sit behind cover til the timer ends or you run out of SC rounds. You better hope they don't pack a KE shield and a TE one.
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fuck u, if the SC lands its GG, planes and simple. That setup is 1v4 material never mind duels. The X00 punches thru 1st gen TE shields. Sure the second gen shield kinda breaks it but anything not carrying at least one of those is just plain fucked. You get ~40 SC shots, enough to tag a shield and drown a UNAC or two if you're lucky.
Nobody uses 1st gen TE shields. Those are just completely outclassed by the second gen one. Which walls you. In a 1v4 I would be astonished to see a SC win the day. Maybe if the opposing team was all tanks. Nevermind that in CQ people tend to either sit behind cover when they see a sc quad or they rush it and force it to drop the SC. 40 shots vs 15 shots doesn't make a difference.
Who cares about hitting UNACs with it. JP UNACs are going to gang rush the SC quad because its sitting still and they really don't give a shit about death.
.... were talking quads and HBPs, its never just one K29 and a missile... The quad has its TE shield, which gets wrecked by missiles. Unless the HBP is played by a retard humping a doorknob it doesn't even need the rifle....
No, its usually 2 sawas and a HSM. Where I still give the advantage to the quad for reasons I already stated. Additionally even if the shield is broken off it extends the AP of the quad which is already higher than the HBP. Plus I haven't seen a quad without at least one shield on JP in months. I've seen a lot of these sawa heavies without one tho.