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#1 IAmBecomeZanite

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 04:16 PM

Okay, so what the hell are handguns even used for?

The only benefits of them that I can see are that they have low weight and good impact force. Are they just for limiting movement? Or do people even use them?

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 04:19 PM

no.


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 06:03 PM

I will gracefully assume that the "no" I have been given means that handguns are for skrubs.


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 09:27 PM

you can use a handgun to achieve armor break allowing you to follow up with something else for a greater amount of damage in a short time or to hit for effective damage when the opponent would normally block the weapon. However: Most Handguns have less impact force than a shotgun, deal less damage and the best follow up weapons (the triple shot battle rifles and a pulse gun) work better when paired with a shotgun anyway. So handguns don't really see much use.

​That being said, you can force them to work. I created a fairly dangerous UNAC that used the 3BR and Sophora Handgun. However, I don't think I ever took it into World Mode given the lack of DPS it had. If a human was to run the same set up a shotgun would simply work better, even though the handgun has slightly better reach.


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 05:02 AM

So basically handguns are for skrubs?


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 05:39 AM

not really, just outclassed. Like i said they can be made to work, just no reason to


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 06:26 AM

Ah, gotcha. Do they have any function at all as a backup weapon?


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 06:40 AM

look at handgun weight. Now look at shield weight. Look back at handgun weight. Now look at melee weapons. 

 

heat howies, pulse guns are also right on top of them.... sub comp, ciws etc. In terms of opportunity cost handguns are among the worst weapons in the game. 

 

Ah, gotcha. Do they have any function at all as a backup weapon?

 

they really don't. The only weapons I'd consider backing with a pistol are K29, K37 or ammo magged X00. The provo (suppressed uzi looking thing) is a highly functional shield breaker.


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 06:51 AM

Does anyone use them as a longer-range stagger?


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 09:26 AM

Not really. They all have low optimal range and bad decay rate.


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 10:40 AM

So... Mainly useless.


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 01:03 PM

Iffs brings up a very good point.

​Given thier weight there are better options for their performance. About the only use I can truly think of is to combine them with a 3BR on a very light build where you cannot fit a shotgun.


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 02:16 PM

Oh, I've never had good luck with the 3BR... It just seems so innaccurate


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Posted 03 June 2017 - 02:08 PM

Accuracy is less a problem than muzzle velocity, 3BR shoots straight with good firing stability. No matter how you tune them its never a competent mid range weapon. Without going into any real depth, 3BR excels as a nuke tier CE shotgun.


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Posted 04 June 2017 - 08:32 AM

Ah, that explains that then.

Soooo putting them on a featherweight LBP is not a good idea I take it?

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